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The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby insider on Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:14 pm

Great to see the NSA proudly showing the flag at the Midland Gamefair. Like old times. And obviously doing good business
What on earth were the morons of the disgraced sportsmans ass. doing in their lunatic actions in losing the business acumen of Joe Kelly and Co.?

I did see a couple of their 'council' creeping around like lost sheep. Now you see them now you dont!
Albi fox has less and less credibility left. Done a runner again from Bisley for the olympic shooting and childish scaremongering regarding Woolwich. And his backing for sec 5-is contrary to O.C

Will the mickey mouse nra Trustees ban them from displaying at Bisley like they did for the NSA? If not they could have a problem with discrimination laws!!!I shall be watching with interest!
In his newsletter westlake continually refers to 'mike and i' Laurel and Hardy 'another fine mess you have got me into'!!
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby copon on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:12 pm

The sportsmans association in my opinion is as useful to defend shooting as Rebecca peters IANSA, The Gun control Network, Mother Against Guns etc. etc.
I am told that Joe Kelly was prevented from representing the SA on the media as he was doing too good a job!!.

What a waste of good talent?
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby insider on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:25 pm

I see the 'lameduck' & discredited sportsmans association wheeled out their decaying display unit at Bisley over the weekend- described by alby fox as unsuitable for its dirty and shabby appearance when it was used by Joe kelly & co. even tho they hadnt used it for some years!!. They had acquired an up to date replacement!!

I wonder what happened to the wheelbarrow which was used for taking Mikel Wells back from the bars legless to put him to bed before they had to bar him from attending gamefairs!.

It was ironic to witness him at the weekend on NRA property advocating against NRA policy to have Olympic shooting for the Olympics at Dartford!!

I wonder if he was offered a fee for this? didnt he try this on the Kingsington club /Sergeants mess first deal?
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby copon on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:39 pm

I have a question. wells has been stating that he represents shooters in Court. Is this possible as I understood that it was necessary to be qualified to do so. Also what happened in the case Joe Kelly took against them? Was that one of the wins?
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby Burnt Offering on Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:38 am

It is not absolutely necessary to be qualified to have a right of audience or to be able to conduct litigation. Judges have discretion to grant permission for an unqualified person to do so, if the litigant makes application.
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby insider on Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:23 pm

Quite right Burnt Offering. However.as the saying goes 'a man who defends himself in Court has a fool for a client' and I would suggest the same applies to an amateur defending somebody. However I have failed to get information on any case that Wells defended.

He did however, Im reliably informed lose the case of The Sportsmans associationv v Joe kelly who was awarded a couple of grand.I understand that The sportsmans assoiciation were represented by Westlake, Toufexus, wells. and a fellow called Brown.

At the following AGM they stated that the Judge didnt understand their case!!!
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby SimonJenkins on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:59 pm

I am sorry but is this all the NSA have?

What else are you doing, I have had a couple of emails’ from your webmaster asking me to come back to the forum and when I do this is what I see, why do you just not get over your membership of The Sportsmans Association or lack of it.

Now please let me know just what you are doing for shooting, what are you wanting from shooters, letters, political lobbying etc or are you just after slating someone else if that is what you are about just have done with it and change your name to F*CK The Sportsmans Association it would appear to be a bit more honest.

Si
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby insider on Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:51 am

My dear Jenkins, IANSA, GCN and one or two others are obviously fighting against gun ownership. The remnants of the Sportsmans Ass. are doing more harm by pretending to be defending shooting and by their actions are doing the opposite. I feel it most important that shooters and others should be made aware of their actions and not be fooled into joining an organisation that is only in operation just for their own self interests.
I have irrefutable proof of the accuracy of everything I have been allowed to display on this website.
There is a wealth of useful information on the NSA website that I find most educational and useful and I am a little surprised that you can find only one item to criticise!
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby Burnt Offering on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:59 pm

I think Mr Jenkins is probably wondering where this came from . . . . . . .

"We will actively pursue the implementation of the Olympic Charter.

The National Shooting Association will tirelessly defend against all further attacks on shooting sports and upon the constitutional and Common Law right to possess firearms and to engage in all shooting and field sports activities.

Join us now in the fight that must be won in the interests of all shooting enthusiasts and firearms owners in the U.K."

. . . . .when all that seems to be happening is that some juicy comments about SAGBNI committee members and a couple of rather good cartoons are all that have been posted.
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Re: The Sportsmans association 'rump'!

Postby SimonJenkins on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:57 pm

Burnt Offering & Insider,

Firstly real names are much nicer, Bill and Ben would do without names how do I know who / what I am speaking to, I have spoken to one member of the old NSA forum on the phone (if you want my number just PM me) as far as I know you two are just trolling around.

Insider, I have asked in other discussions on this forum just what the NSA want me / us to do I understand that IANSA & GCN want things banned and they ask people who are sympathetic to them to do things what do you want us to do? I do not want to know about your irrefutable proof of what someone else is up to I want to know what you are doing, as far as I can see on this forum you are just having a pop at The Sportsman's, if that is all you are doing then what use are you?

Burnt Offering, I do not give a flying fig where your quote came from or what SAGBNI are doing what do you as the NSA want me / us shooters to do?

If all you two can do is harp on about The Sportsman's are you anything to do with NSA?

Do Mr Joe Kelly, Mr Frank Gear or Mr Lee Graham come on the forum (after all they are the Provisional Executive Committee ( http://www.thenationalshootingassociati ... ontact.php ))? If so please say something, give some leadership and take control of this forum and the message that the NSA want to project because at the moment you are just wasting this corner of cyber space.

Si
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